I Bought a Thing This Week

"LuczOr" (LuczOr) 03/21/2014 at 17:28 • Filed to: None

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Here is my most recent acquisition. Ye Olde Pushrod LS1 wrapped in an upside down, crumpled rowboat. The engine, ECM, related engine electronics, and radiator are coming with me.

The rest of the rowboat will be disassembled and sold, piecemeal, to the highest bidding marine enthusiasts.

In seriousness, I was pretty excited to finish with the winning bid. The car runs and drives off a jump box, but doesn't seem to charge the battery. I took it for a quick spin down the road just to see what all the fuss was about with these LS engines, and I must say, I now fully understand the muscle car mentality. T-tops are cool, the seats are very comfortable and the seating position exactly right for me. If it didn't have the styling of an overturned bathtub and a terrible slushbox, that one test drive would have solidly convinced me to fix it instead of rip out it's heart.

But alas, it was not meant to be. This engine will go somewhere unique. It will go to a vehicle that has almost no support for the swap. My 1986 4runner.

There are going to be all kinds of clearance issues and I have only heard of one other person mating it to the factory 5-speed. The main part that makes it possible is Advance Adapters' bellhousing that goes from the W56 5-speed to the GM 90 degree bolt pattern. The kit is intended for the venerable LT1 350, but the bolt pattern is the same on the LS1.

All I have to do is a bit of flywheel spacing and some custom clutch ordering, not to mention a mix and match of clutch slave and throw out bearing parts and this thing should bolt right up(ish). Then I plan to fab some custom motor mounts if the "universal" kit I have doesn't work out just right and I will slide that motor in (after going to town on the firewall with an air-hammer to make some space). Corvette accessory kit comes next to make room for the radiator and low profile electric fans and then there will be some interracial mating of power steering systems. Block hugger headers and a bunch of welded up piping for the loud to come out of. Fuel pump upgrades and the respective adapting after that, and then a whole mess of wiring for ignition, starting and ECU. The final touch will be a HP Tuners flash to delete all the automatic transmission control and sweep the check engine lights under the rug and then it will be big smoky burnouts and roasting tires all day long till the gears in the transmission shear clean off and I wonder why I ever thought this would be a good idea.

Stay tuned, epic failures guaranteed.

MonkeePuzzle > LuczOr 03/21/2014 at 17:31

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woot! a swap with no support, should be pretty interesting

jkm7680 > LuczOr 03/21/2014 at 17:32

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That looked like it used to be a nice one.

thebigbossyboss > LuczOr 03/21/2014 at 17:32

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Summs up my thoughts about this.

Reigntastic > LuczOr 03/21/2014 at 17:33

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I know someone in college station who has an LS1 swapped land cruiser, I can't remember what transmission he used though. Cool swap, you're going to have an awesome finished project.

LuczOr > jkm7680 03/21/2014 at 17:33

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82,000 miles. The seats look pretty darn good (I hope they sell for a lot).

jkm7680 > LuczOr 03/21/2014 at 17:36

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Nice, good luck sticking it in the Toyota!

crowmolly > LuczOr 03/21/2014 at 17:36

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You do know the LT1 bellhousing pattern and LS1 bellhousing patterns are different, right?

revrseat70 > Reigntastic 03/21/2014 at 17:40

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That will be an amazing swap, once you're done OP. Not to thread jack, but do you drive this MR2 in the TCU area? I swear I recognize this car from your avatar.

For Sweden > LuczOr 03/21/2014 at 17:41

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I'm not sure you know what "boat" means in an automotive context.

Reigntastic > revrseat70 03/21/2014 at 17:41

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I used to live in North Texas, but not for almost a year now. Never in the immediate TCU area. Find the owner of that MR2 and tell him I think he has excellent taste in vehicles!

Roberto G. > LuczOr 03/21/2014 at 17:47

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It seems that someone fired a submachine burst, to that Corvette...

TillTheWheelsFallOff: Brocoma > LuczOr 03/21/2014 at 17:50

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I dig your 4runner! The LS will work beautifully in there.

Blondude > LuczOr 03/21/2014 at 17:53

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You are insane and I love you for it.

Garrett Davis > LuczOr 03/21/2014 at 17:55

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Please, please, please, keep us updated on this. I love first gen 4Runners!

AncientOfDays > LuczOr 03/21/2014 at 18:03

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Stay tuned, epic failures guaranteed.

lol... I see you have a healthy sense of realism. A good thing to have when going into a project.

LuczOr > crowmolly 03/21/2014 at 18:23

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You are correct. The LT1 bolts up with 6 bolts and the LS1 bolts up with 8 bolts. However, 5 of those bolts are in the exact same place on both applications. I will be using those 5 and saying "That should be enough."

LuczOr > For Sweden 03/21/2014 at 18:26

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It's in reference to the Gen4 Camaro styling, which I think looks like an overturned boat or bathtub (similar to many cars from the mid 90's).

crowmolly > LuczOr 03/21/2014 at 19:36

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Yikes. Might want to rethink that.

Dogapult > LuczOr 03/21/2014 at 19:52

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What are you going to do with the 22r?

LuczOr > crowmolly 03/22/2014 at 00:33

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It's actually really common. Pardon my attempts at being humorous. There are hundreds of threads about it on LS1tech.com and thousands of people, including dedicated drag strip cars, are running the 5 bolt setup.

LuczOr > Dogapult 03/22/2014 at 00:56

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The old thing has 330,000 miles on it and burns about 2 quarts of oil every 1500 miles. I only drove it once a week to go snowboarding this past winter, but you can tell where I parked it along my fence because there is a huge black spot on the fence where the exhaust spit copious amounts of oil on it on every start up.

The plan is to tear it apart and throw a master rebuild kit at it. Pistons, rings, bearings, water and oil pump; the full shabang and sell that thing too. I'm sure it will bring a pretty premium since these things last forever. Actually, I have another 22r that I will do at the same time that came out of my '91 4x4 when I swapped in the one from my '93 2WD, which was my first 22r truck which I replaced the bed on from my '92 2WD soooooo I've had a few.

revrseat70 > Reigntastic 03/22/2014 at 13:50

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He would be receiving that compliment from both of us! I really like those

Dogapult > LuczOr 03/22/2014 at 23:45

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I was actually going to ask if you were going to sell it. I managed to slightly fucker up the one in my '73 Celica LeMons car.

LuczOr > Dogapult 03/23/2014 at 18:26

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Mine is fuel injected, so you would need the ECU too.

Dogapult > LuczOr 03/24/2014 at 03:23

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I have....plans... I wouldn't need the ECU.

FJ80WaitinForaLSV8 > LuczOr 04/08/2014 at 12:58

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Very excited to see how this swap progresses. I have a 260k land cruiser that, despite my handle, probably end up getting a LS motor. Good luck!